frame size 17x15 picture size 10x8 dull red frame (lucite over wood) framed PRE 1963 *personal belief picture is older than that.* age of picture itself UNKNOWN in one picture possible artist signature, overall unsure if that is true or not. personal opinion, signature under border, we are uncomfortable taking it apart to check. excellent condition back, few tears in upper right three small punctures in bottom very old braided picture wire
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